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		<title>Comment on Buzza! by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.ghotifish.net/2007/11/buzza/comment-page-1/#comment-14218</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 04:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It is definitely still there and is located at Lake Street and Dupont Ave.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Comment on Buzza! by Andy Berman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy Berman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 02:02:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, as of July 2009, the Buzza building stands and is in use. It is now called the &quot;Lehmann Center&quot; (but &quot;Buzza&quot;) is still engraved in stone at the top of the building. It is used by the Minneapolis Public Schools for a number of different programs, including adult education, an alternative high school, day care, etc.  I tutor math to immigrant students there.
The building is old. The elevators are slow. But it is well-used and in apparently good shape.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Andy Berman 6 July 2009&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, as of July 2009, the Buzza building stands and is in use. It is now called the &#8220;Lehmann Center&#8221; (but &#8220;Buzza&#8221;) is still engraved in stone at the top of the building. It is used by the Minneapolis Public Schools for a number of different programs, including adult education, an alternative high school, day care, etc.  I tutor math to immigrant students there.
The building is old. The elevators are slow. But it is well-used and in apparently good shape.</p>

<p>Andy Berman 6 July 2009</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Buzza! by Gail O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gail O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 03:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Does the Buzza Building still stand? I remember that it was located on Lake Street, east of Chicago Avenue in Minneapolis. I just checked Google Maps, and there&#039;s a parking lot where I thought it was located. It would be sad if yet another structure met the wrecking ball. Gail&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the Buzza Building still stand? I remember that it was located on Lake Street, east of Chicago Avenue in Minneapolis. I just checked Google Maps, and there&#8217;s a parking lot where I thought it was located. It would be sad if yet another structure met the wrecking ball. Gail</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on Excuse Me While I Move To Europe by Teague</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been to both Barcelona and Lyon since they started their programs, and there were a lot of people using the bikes.  It was especially noticeable in Barcelona, it was rolled out shortly before my visit.  (Hard to compare their effect on the feel of the streets, of course, since I&#039;m used to American ones.)  A practical note:  If you visit and want to use the bikes, make sure you get a credit card that has one of those little gold chips on the front, because none of the card readers we saw read magnetic strips.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think the DC program has been underway for a month or two now.  I&#039;m not that optimistic about its success.  The reasons you cite are a factor (as is the helmet issue they mention in the article), but I think the biggest obstacle is the limited number of stations.  In Barcelona, there are 375 stations; in DC there are 10.  Since the bikes can&#039;t be locked up, you need to be taking a trip that starts next to one of the stations and ends next to one of the others.  DC isn&#039;t huge, but the chances still aren&#039;t that great that your trip will work on SmartBike.  All of the stations are in downtown, so for most people it&#039;s impossible to use it for a trip that starts or ends at home.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;There&#039;s a station a couple blocks from my office, but I&#039;ve only seen bikes on the street twice since it started.  The city&#039;s political leaders didn&#039;t want to take the risk of rolling out a big program, but creating a small one would seem to just doom it to failure.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been to both Barcelona and Lyon since they started their programs, and there were a lot of people using the bikes.  It was especially noticeable in Barcelona, it was rolled out shortly before my visit.  (Hard to compare their effect on the feel of the streets, of course, since I&#8217;m used to American ones.)  A practical note:  If you visit and want to use the bikes, make sure you get a credit card that has one of those little gold chips on the front, because none of the card readers we saw read magnetic strips.</p>

<p>I think the DC program has been underway for a month or two now.  I&#8217;m not that optimistic about its success.  The reasons you cite are a factor (as is the helmet issue they mention in the article), but I think the biggest obstacle is the limited number of stations.  In Barcelona, there are 375 stations; in DC there are 10.  Since the bikes can&#8217;t be locked up, you need to be taking a trip that starts next to one of the stations and ends next to one of the others.  DC isn&#8217;t huge, but the chances still aren&#8217;t that great that your trip will work on SmartBike.  All of the stations are in downtown, so for most people it&#8217;s impossible to use it for a trip that starts or ends at home.</p>

<p>There&#8217;s a station a couple blocks from my office, but I&#8217;ve only seen bikes on the street twice since it started.  The city&#8217;s political leaders didn&#8217;t want to take the risk of rolling out a big program, but creating a small one would seem to just doom it to failure.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on The Point Of A Limbo Stick Is That Eventually Everyone Falls Down And Looks Dumb by lj</title>
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		<dc:creator>lj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 14:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The date format makes sense to me, but I think it&#039;s a geek thing (today&#039;s build at work is timestamped -081027.zip, for example).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The oil tax sounds like a really sensible idea in some ways. Unfortunately, given the level of general economics knowledge and the sound-bite knee-jerk reaction news cycle, I think it would be political suicide: &quot;We&#039;re hurting because gas is expensive, and they want to &lt;em&gt;tax&lt;/em&gt; it?!?!?&quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The date format makes sense to me, but I think it&#8217;s a geek thing (today&#8217;s build at work is timestamped -081027.zip, for example).</p>

<p>The oil tax sounds like a really sensible idea in some ways. Unfortunately, given the level of general economics knowledge and the sound-bite knee-jerk reaction news cycle, I think it would be political suicide: &#8220;We&#8217;re hurting because gas is expensive, and they want to <em>tax</em> it?!?!?&#8221;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on The Point Of A Limbo Stick Is That Eventually Everyone Falls Down And Looks Dumb by Teague</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 05:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good to see you&#039;ve posted again.  Not to focus on the superficial, but hey, the new carpet and furniture in here look nice!  My only complaint is that &quot;Recent Posts&quot; is currently using the damndest date format I&#039;ve ever seen...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good to see you&#8217;ve posted again.  Not to focus on the superficial, but hey, the new carpet and furniture in here look nice!  My only complaint is that &#8220;Recent Posts&#8221; is currently using the damndest date format I&#8217;ve ever seen&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on You Say You Want a Wikipedia by Teague</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teague</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cool essay.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;While he may get a little too carried away with his metaphor, it does frame things in a way that I&#039;m inclined to buy into.  And I (like you, I think) long ago decided that this was going to be a major, epoch-making change in society.  I think it will be positive on balance, though there will be plenty of unanticipated consequences (like the potential fragmentation of the public discourse).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In response to HCE&#039;s comment, the degree of effort needed is important (after all, who wants to do something hard on their leisure time?).  But I think the main distinction between those other activities and blogging, wiki, etc. is that these new interactive media are plugged into the social grid.  If I were to go reengineer my wagon 15 years ago, I would be able to appreciate it, along with anyone who stopped by my house and let me drag them into the garage.  If they weren&#039;t expending too much energy pretending to be interested, they might give me an idea of how to further improve my wagon design.  But when I post something on my blog, I&#039;m usually building on something someone else did, and anyone searching for that sort of thing can come and see what I said, and maybe leave a comment or link to it.  The person whose work I mentioned can even find out that I mentioned them.  How awesome is this?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;TV has been such a cognitive sink because there wasn&#039;t anything as widely compelling and accessible to (almost) all.  TV was compelling because, by providing stories and a common subject for us to talk about, it simulated the actual interaction and self-expression we crave with very little effort.  The internet &lt;i&gt;et al&lt;/i&gt; are providing a more compelling alternative for only slightly more effort, so I do agree that the shift will be pretty substantial over time.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool essay.</p>

<p>While he may get a little too carried away with his metaphor, it does frame things in a way that I&#8217;m inclined to buy into.  And I (like you, I think) long ago decided that this was going to be a major, epoch-making change in society.  I think it will be positive on balance, though there will be plenty of unanticipated consequences (like the potential fragmentation of the public discourse).</p>

<p>In response to HCE&#8217;s comment, the degree of effort needed is important (after all, who wants to do something hard on their leisure time?).  But I think the main distinction between those other activities and blogging, wiki, etc. is that these new interactive media are plugged into the social grid.  If I were to go reengineer my wagon 15 years ago, I would be able to appreciate it, along with anyone who stopped by my house and let me drag them into the garage.  If they weren&#8217;t expending too much energy pretending to be interested, they might give me an idea of how to further improve my wagon design.  But when I post something on my blog, I&#8217;m usually building on something someone else did, and anyone searching for that sort of thing can come and see what I said, and maybe leave a comment or link to it.  The person whose work I mentioned can even find out that I mentioned them.  How awesome is this?</p>

<p>TV has been such a cognitive sink because there wasn&#8217;t anything as widely compelling and accessible to (almost) all.  TV was compelling because, by providing stories and a common subject for us to talk about, it simulated the actual interaction and self-expression we crave with very little effort.  The internet <i>et al</i> are providing a more compelling alternative for only slightly more effort, so I do agree that the shift will be pretty substantial over time.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on You Say You Want a Wikipedia by Humphrey Chimpden Earwicker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Humphrey Chimpden Earwicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah, if you cut out all of Wikipedia that is directly related to Desperate Housewives, Gilligan&#039;s Island, elves, celebrities, etc, you&#039;d pretty much gut the thing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;More seriously, I think there&#039;s a major problem with his argument that before the Internet, he was &lt;em&gt;forced&lt;/em&gt; to watch TV all the time and not do anything constructive (&quot;I was forced into the channel of media the way it was because it was the only option.&quot;). He may have been forced into the consumptive model of media, but he was still choosing to engage in that world of media. He couldn&#039;t read a book and then pick up a pencil and write? Or walk around outside and talk to people or observe nature? Or paint a picture? Or go to the garage and re-engineer his wagon or bicycle?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The distinction between those activities and blogging, wiki-editing, etc, seems to be that the latter are done in front of a screen in the comfort of your living room -- so perhaps what is more important to us is not whether or not we can participate and create, but that whatever we do we can do it with a minimum of physical effort and via some sort of intermediary that frees us from interacting with the real world directly.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;He has an interesting point, but I think there is something even deeper and more interesting that he is missing. Why was that little girl looking for a mouse instead of looking out the window? Why am I commenting on your blog instead of talking to you directly?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, if you cut out all of Wikipedia that is directly related to Desperate Housewives, Gilligan&#8217;s Island, elves, celebrities, etc, you&#8217;d pretty much gut the thing.</p>

<p>More seriously, I think there&#8217;s a major problem with his argument that before the Internet, he was <em>forced</em> to watch TV all the time and not do anything constructive (&#8220;I was forced into the channel of media the way it was because it was the only option.&#8221;). He may have been forced into the consumptive model of media, but he was still choosing to engage in that world of media. He couldn&#8217;t read a book and then pick up a pencil and write? Or walk around outside and talk to people or observe nature? Or paint a picture? Or go to the garage and re-engineer his wagon or bicycle?</p>

<p>The distinction between those activities and blogging, wiki-editing, etc, seems to be that the latter are done in front of a screen in the comfort of your living room &#8212; so perhaps what is more important to us is not whether or not we can participate and create, but that whatever we do we can do it with a minimum of physical effort and via some sort of intermediary that frees us from interacting with the real world directly.</p>

<p>He has an interesting point, but I think there is something even deeper and more interesting that he is missing. Why was that little girl looking for a mouse instead of looking out the window? Why am I commenting on your blog instead of talking to you directly?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on What I&#8217;m Really Worried About by Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 01:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Found your 50Centuries.com website - just wondering how your centuries went . . .&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found your 50Centuries.com website &#8211; just wondering how your centuries went . . .</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>Comment on What I&#8217;m Really Worried About by Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I just bought some on sale for our camping trip two days ago.  Come down to TX and stock up!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just bought some on sale for our camping trip two days ago.  Come down to TX and stock up!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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